> # Dorsal Slit for Phimotic Ring with Frenulum Breve and Veins

> Written by michael at 22 Jul 2000 08:32:27:

> I've pretty much read all the previous conversations and am trying to put it
> all together. Here we have the human penis that comes with this sort of pro-
> tective glove which for most fellows is retractable past the glans (head) of
> the penis, if it hasn't already been cut back for any along a wide gamut of
> cultural reasons. Those who retain this retractable skin I would guess have
> long since learned to dutifully carry out some form of regular cleaning
> operation. But those of us (a wee tiny minority) without this blessing of
> retractability may possibly never entertained any notion of cleaning the
> phallus anywhere but on the outside. It's like one of the writers somewhere
> (maybe a differnt web site)wrote that he kind of likened what was visible
> (the reddish tip) within the hollow of a small foreskin opening, to one's
> eyeball. You don't go about washing the eyeball, and little more does one
> address the eyelids - the whole area being so delicate. The inside tip of
> my penis seemed like something to be left alone - it didn't seem constructed
> to tamper with. I assummed that with normal exterior washing the rest would
> somehow naturally take care of itself (think of how the ear canal, eyes, and
> nose are to a large extent self cleaning);indeed I have never had infections
> in 42 years (chlorinated pool H20 helped during years of swimming helped?)
> I have fathered 3 boys (all circumcised I must say) so the procreative pur-
> pose of the old oak tree has not been in question, though there has always
> been minor discomfort in the initial stage of sex - trying to actually make
> it inside the vagina cause if the tightness at the penis tip. But once my
> wife's own tightness gives way and lubrication begins then we are good to go
> (heh,heh) I often reflect on the similarities to my most early sexual unions
> because of this element of preventative-like restriction. It's one of the
> things that keeps me young of mind in a strange way. But now I am kind of
> at a stage where I want to experience what added joys and pleasure may be
> experienced with a fully exposed glans - that's right folks I am looking
> forward to going for it !! This brings me finally (almost)to my questions.
> I have experimented somewhat, and can manage to pull the foreskin back only
> far enough to expose a structure about half the tip of your little finger -
> that's it - without any pain. At that point there seems to be my first clue
> about this frenulum that is supposed to attach the foreskin to some portion
> of the glans (to the sulcus?). There seems to be a little ridge of skin
> involved right there at the tip and I get the distinct impression that this
> frenulum affair is quickly going to prevent my being able to pull back the
> foreskin much farther at all. It just really seems to tug up around there
> giving a pain to about the same degree as that from pressing a pretty sharp
> fingernail into the palm of your hand with a few pounds of force. It is this
> pain I feel in the first stage of sex. Pulling it tight like that makes
> evident what possibly is this infamous phimotic ring. It basically appears a
> little more "reinforced" right at the actual foreskin fold. It is about there
> too, under the extra pressure exerted in my little retraction attempt, that I
> see quite a lot of vein work. So my questions arenow these:

> 1) Can these various cortisone creams, while somehow thinning out the foreskin,
> have a bad effect on the appreciable vascular network so closely involved ?
> 2) Can these creams have any loosening or stretching effect on the frenulum ?
> 3) If a dorsal slit is perfomed to create a relief mechanism to help facilitate
> retraction, how is it possible to avoid compromising the frenulum (which I
> understand is so chocked full of pleasure nerves, and should be respected at
> all costs (For after all, we here in the states may feel entitled to the
> pursuit of happiness, you know).
> 4) Is the slit often made in the dorsal area since the resulting loose tissue
> flaps (ostensibly undesirable in appearance) would be less apparent when the
> penis hangs in its flaccid state ?
> 5) Is it within the realm of common sense that the relief cut is normally
> made in a dorsal location so that if the frenulum is involved it can be
> snipped a bit there so that now all little flaps are simply in a single
> area.
> 6) What is that frenuplasty (I know my spelling is way off here but I can't go
> back to check the right way at his point) procedure? I mean is there some
> real room for minimalism here (where you can barely notice operative cuts
> etc.). Or some creativity in the snipping and stitching that may be involved?
> 7) Given the fact that the glans itself is covered with some kind of mucosal-
> like tissue, how do you get this helmet-like protuberance willing to exist
> in the cruel abrasive environment - open hair, rough clothes, etc. - for the
> first time in over 40 years ?
> 8) (6) and (7) having been asked, is there any possibility in this fantastic
> technologically miraculous age of ours to install a very thin micro-zipper
> so that one could unzip ones foreskin zipper either for sex or for washing
> than zip back up? Thus any flaps that may have been a bit unsightly can
> be justed zipped shut. Sorta keep the skin fully intact (have cake and eat
> it too, if you will)
> 9) Have any the visitors reading the dialogue in this section, had any
> experience, using cream and pull-back exercises, where some ripping or
> tearing of the skin occurred? Did you wait for more than a day to heal
> up before you tried again? (Or how long?) What about any scar tissue that
> could then develop? At what point does elasticity begin to be so compromised
> that diminishing returns ensue?
> 10) Is there any safe tool that a man can use to stretch the foreskin
> opening uniformly (around the the circumference) and gradually (over
> hours, days, weeks)? I thought I saw some such apparatus in my surfing.
> It definitely could make a lot of sense. Certainly there are various
> peoples about the world who practice various kind of skin stretching or
> hole expanding using some appliance over some appreciable length of time.

> (!!) Hey thanks for everyone's time. Please answer what questions you can.
> I believe they are all pretty good ones - relevant and haven't really
> been raised before. I have visited and tried to deal with a few Urology
> groups here in the U.S. midwest and I am not really getting very straight
> answers. I hope to arm myself with enough good ideas so that I can
> deal with any of medical community proactively and effectively but
> tactfully as well. I had conjured up a few notions of documenting my
> efforts, in a way that could foster enlightenment. I did call the local
> paper at one point but they are not quite ready to bite. So please supply
> your best ideas, piecemeal or comprehensively in your responses which I
> very greatly appreciate, and look forward to applying towards the pleasures
> of lovemaking and providing a decent follow-up here in good time(Thanks).

> Answers:

> - Re: Dorsal Slit for Phimotic Ring with Frenulum Breve and Veins Robin 12/18/2000 06:47 (0)
> - Re: Dorsal Slit for Phimotic Ring with Frenulum Breve and Veins R J Knight 7/22/2000 20:02 (2)
>   - Re: Dorsal Slit for Phimotic Ring with Frenulum Breve and Veins michael 7/24/2000 06:20 (1)
>     - Re: Dorsal Slit for Phimotic Ring with Frenulum Breve and Veins R J Knight 7/24/2000 18:27 (0)

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