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# Re: torn frenulum - looking for best solution Written by Robin at 02 Mar 2006 20:26:25: As an answer to: torn frenulum - looking for best solution written by Lucas at 02 Mar 2006 20:25:28: Dear Lucas, Fascinating letter. Lets start by thanking you for writing to arc ... and actually at present this gets forwarded to only me, and then if youve read my little note about only being online once a week, and if you were trying to avoid a delay in answering then bad luck ... yours truly always takes a week or two ... So your frenulum previously must have been on the short side to have created such pleasant sensations when under tension. You say it ripped due to an accident, a mistake, it is always nice to know the details, but I'll save you the embarrassment, whatever, you now have the symptoms of frenulum breve. Yes this can repeat, frenulums which have ripped once have a habit of re-ripping. Also youre asking about when youre 40 and the lack of lubrication, well if I project till you are 70 I could almost guarantee extra problems due to general skin shrinkage. Calendula salve is interesting, I know nothing of herbal cures, is calendula the best plant to heal bleeding, or heal skin? ... if you could confirm this simple question Id appreciate it - it might be useful advice for others. What you probably should have done was to apply the calendula and then bandaged the foreskin in a retracted position so that the frenulum could mend in its new ripped length, it sounds like you (and most others) packed it tight together and so it has joined and healed shorter than previously. I dont follow how the frenulum is thicker than before, whereas I can follow how the remnants of the scar from rejoining would be thicker than it was before. What is fascinating is frenulum tension is sonetimes reported as pleasant, often painful - I have often wondered if this is due to where and how it is attatched to the foreskin, however your experience shows quite clearly that the difference in sensation is purely due to difference in length, this is really very curious because then surely, by pulling back less you should arrive at the same sensation you had before ... nerves must run through the frenulum and you must have ripped them as well ... My subjective experience is indeed that after frenuloplasty the foreskin underneath hangs further forward, ... something like this must have happened, but I never took scientific measurements, so maybe it just allowed a bag to form and hang under the glans which collected the urine. (I had only 5 yrs. with frenuloplasty before having a half circ. so I can only rely on my memory) I can only imagine and speculate that whereas my frenulum breve attatched the foreskin to a point underneath the glans, with you it is attatched nearer the meatus (the urinary opening) and thus pulls the foreskin further forward ... or maybe your glans has another shape ... my speculation is that if you had a frenuloplasty your foreskin would sit further back, maybe in its original position. Of course your optimal operation would somehow simply return the frenulum to its original length ... (is this possible with money and plastic surgery?) What I can say and have heard repeated often enough, is when the frenulum is removed (frenuloplasty sews it into the shaft of the penis) the area where the frenulum was is then pleasurable to touch etc. .. I would say the most pleasurable area on the entire penis. So, actually if youve lots of cash and feel like being a scientific experiment then ARC will be extremely interested if it is possible to actually extend a frenulum breve to a pleasurable length. However by far the easiest most practical thing to do is to have a frenuloplasty. The alternative is to live quite unworried until it rips again, if and when this happens apply your calendula and bandage the foreskin back, so that it heals in the ripped position. The problem with this method is stilling the blood, and the amount of blood depends on how thick the blood vessels in your frenulum are. Anyway, it would mean you need to have plenty of swabs available, I suppose tampons would also do ... If there is an uneven overhang after a frenulum op. it would be comparatively easy to cut this straight as a second step. For me its a very interesting question, I dont really understand why your foreskin hangs longer when the frenulum is shorter, whereas mine did the opposite, ... so the bounds of my understanding are being stretched and for this reason thank you for your letter, very informative. Keep in touch tell us what happens, Cheers Robin >Hi There: >Firstly, let me say I think this "third way" approach >is exactly what is needed when it comes to problems of >male penile and sexual health, and I really appreciate >the work you've done developing these forums. >Even after reading so many messages and experiences of >frenuloplasty and circumcision, though, I still am >sort of stuck in terms of what to do, or whether to do >anything, about my situation. I guess that's 'cause >everyone's willy is unique! Also, my situation is not >as extreme as many. >I'm 30 years old, and I tore my frenulum a few years >back. This never would have happened had I not been >engaged in some really stupid sexual maneuvres with >not nearly enough lubrication, as I had never had any >indication of a thin or tight frenulum, or any >foreskin problems. I applied some calendula salve to >it and it healed well within a month. >The thing is, my frenulum now feels tighter and >doesn't give me pleasure as it used to, especially >during oral sex. Whereas I used to really enjoy the >sensations given by the stretching of the frenulum, I >only really notice now when my lover's teeth come into >contact, and it doesn't feel very nice - not exactly >painful, but not nice either. The other change that I >really don't appreciate is that my foreskin, which >used to just cover the glans pretty evenly all around, >now protrudes more on the underside and looks more >flabby when flacid, owing to the way the frenulum >thickened somewhat when it healed and therefore seems >to push the foreskin foreward more on the underside in >closed position, and this means I have to pull the >foreskin back a little in order to pee straight, which >I didn't have to do before. >As for intercourse, it's fine as long as there's >enough lubrication, but I wonder if the frenulum could >tear again when I'm much older, as I understand older >women nearing menopause don't lubricate as much >naturally. >So all in all, I don't have a serious immediate >problem, but I REALLY miss the way my penis was >before. I didn't have to be so careful not to pull >back too tightly or hard on the foreskin. That used >to be pleasurable, whereas now the frenulum is thicker >(and I worry it could break again), and the foreskin >doesn't move quite as far back or as freely as it used >to. >I don't really want to be circumcised, although some >say that this works for frenulum problems, as little >skin is left to pull on it, which is intriguing, and >of course I'm curious as to whether it might feel >better because of that. As for frenuloplasty, I've >read your experience that the foreskin actually gets >longer after it, and I certainly don't want that, as >my foreskin already appears longer on the underside >than it used to, but without frenuloplasty I worry >that it may tear agin in the future. >The option that I've been living with is to just try >to accept the way my body has changed and make sure >that I'm careful not to tear it again, by using plenty >of lube and generally being careful not to yank (or >have it yanked) too hard. >Thanks in advance for any advice, >Lucas Answers: Re: torn frenulum - looking for best solution Lucas 3/02/2006 20:30 (1) Re: torn frenulum - looking for best solution Robin 3/02/2006 20:32 (0)