The old free forum suddenly closed (the forum host closed due to legal problems in Germany) - (apparently even paid forums in Germany are closing up). - I spent 2 years building up the old forum - then Louis took over ... a little internet community was starting .. but now has stopped ... :( :(

We now have a new forum based in USA. .http://www.voy.com/188394/

I have kept www.male_initiation.net/atyp_penis_fracture.html as an anchor page

I wanted to open a new independant site but it hasnt worked yet

If you want to present or organise forum or site differently to me, then please do.

I would happily give/share passwords from the site or forum with any responsible person.

You can update the site and/or edit the forum quite independantly - use the free programme HTTrack Website Copier (maybe there are newer versions nowadays) to download the entire forum or site - and recreate them - rewriting the entire site or any part of it - I claim no copyright

If you want, we could have a paid site ... (50 Euro for 2 years is the cheapest I know).
We could also load our own forum onto a paid site server ... (we could even load our own wiki on most servers) ... but before I even think of doing this ... I need to know if other men want the project enough to share the costs and work. - (donations)

Im also quite happy for it to go on as it is, on free sites and forums ... as long as no-one suddenly goes bust without warning - like what happened at parsimony forum ...

A mailing list would also be a good idea - I believe its safe to leave adresses at the new forum ... but I'd like someone else to organise this ... if you want to ...

Donations can be made here

frustrating but unavoidable ... Im not online ....My repeated request is that people who can surf could really help me/the project a lot simply doing things in cyberspace and publishing results for example links ... on the forum .. other people could check these links and discuss the usefulness ...

I hope someone will continue the Medline research - collecting the medical reports from Medline - publish results on the forum

Please ensure that the wikipedia entry on penis fracture - is up to date and our project is advertised: - suggested text - (copy the source code) ...

Typical Fracture has symptoms of bending and is caused in connection with either bleeding and/or a loud "crack".
Atypical Penis Fracture has symptoms of pain and bending though ocurrs often without any bleeding or loud "crack". This appears at times to result in year long nerve damage, either pain or numbness.
This nerve damage is the subject of
anchor page http://www.male_initiation.net/atyp_penis_fracture.html
not open yet NEW site http://members.lycos.co.uk/nervefracture/
new forum. http://www.voy.com/188394/

... also a search this site page which I will link up as soon as Ive solved the technical problems of opening a new site - which is not so easy for a technical idiot who is not online ...

it is frustrating how much of my energy and this site development just gets blocked by my technical problems ...